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		<title>By: Yes, FREE, you're wrong</title>
		<link>http://www.salvagetti.com/2010/03/09/cycling-laws-in-denver/#comment-1337</link>
		<dc:creator>Yes, FREE, you're wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free, in Denver the pedestrian *always* has the right of way. Which is why, even when driving a car, I&#039;m super careful when exiting an alley.  Btw, it doesn&#039;t matter where the pedestrian is (not in the crosswalk, jay-walking, etc.)  I guess the theory is, if you&#039;re in/on something with wheels, you can go much faster, so it&#039;s our responsibility to watch out for pedestrians.  Hence speed limits -- they&#039;re not for drivers/riders, but for the safety of pedestrians.  In short, if you can&#039;t stop quickly in case one steps off a curb, you&#039;re going too fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free, in Denver the pedestrian *always* has the right of way. Which is why, even when driving a car, I&#8217;m super careful when exiting an alley.  Btw, it doesn&#8217;t matter where the pedestrian is (not in the crosswalk, jay-walking, etc.)  I guess the theory is, if you&#8217;re in/on something with wheels, you can go much faster, so it&#8217;s our responsibility to watch out for pedestrians.  Hence speed limits &#8212; they&#8217;re not for drivers/riders, but for the safety of pedestrians.  In short, if you can&#8217;t stop quickly in case one steps off a curb, you&#8217;re going too fast.</p>
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		<title>By: 12HarmonicChaos</title>
		<link>http://www.salvagetti.com/2010/03/09/cycling-laws-in-denver/#comment-1263</link>
		<dc:creator>12HarmonicChaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a person who does not feel comfortable on the road with drivers (especially shitty ones) and I was trying to figure out the best way of riding. Riding on the sidewalk is illegal in this city but being on the road going slower than most cars can encourage angry and aggressive driving as well. There are bike lanes in some places, but most places are narrow two lane roads.

I found an article that encourages bikers to take over the entire lane while riding and here were their reasons:

• Sidewalk – While the odds of you getting hit from behind diminish greatly, there are other dangers that come into play.
◦ Drivers are not looking for fast moving objects on the sidewalks so when you come to a cross street there is a good chance you’ll get hit by a turning car.
◦ Sidewalks are available for pedestrians and, in many states, it’s illegal for bicycles to ride on them.
◦ You are forced to (and should) go extremely slow. Besides dealing with turning cars and pedestrians, you are riding are surfaces that are not maintained for traffic and often have other obstacles to deal with.
• The extreme right side of the road – In my opinion this is the most dangerous place you can ride. You are risking two dangers:
◦ Cars will repeatedly try to squeeze by you in the same lane and will almost always come very close to you which, obviously, increases your chance of getting hit.
◦ The Peek-a-boo bike. Picture two cars approaching. The second car is following closely to the first. As the first car moves to miss you, it is seen by the second car as merely drifting in the lane since the car isn’t moving that much out of the way. The second car doesn’t realize you are in the road until it is to late.
Because of the above dangers and contrary to many people’s “common sense”, the best thing for a bike commuter to do is claim the lane. I ride at least a third of the way into the lane and, around curves, I roll right down the middle.

http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/03/18/to...d-why-its-safer

Now, Denver enforces no sidewalk riding, but at the same time, they state that you should ride where cars can pass you at all times, bringing attention to the second danger:

Sec. 54-572. Riding on roadways.
(a) Every person operating a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as near to the right-hand side of the roadway as judged safe by the bicyclist to facilitate the movement of such overtaking vehicles unless other conditions make it unsafe to do so.

So this really puts riders between a few ton moving metal rock and a piece of shit ticket...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a person who does not feel comfortable on the road with drivers (especially shitty ones) and I was trying to figure out the best way of riding. Riding on the sidewalk is illegal in this city but being on the road going slower than most cars can encourage angry and aggressive driving as well. There are bike lanes in some places, but most places are narrow two lane roads.</p>
<p>I found an article that encourages bikers to take over the entire lane while riding and here were their reasons:</p>
<p>• Sidewalk – While the odds of you getting hit from behind diminish greatly, there are other dangers that come into play.<br />
◦ Drivers are not looking for fast moving objects on the sidewalks so when you come to a cross street there is a good chance you’ll get hit by a turning car.<br />
◦ Sidewalks are available for pedestrians and, in many states, it’s illegal for bicycles to ride on them.<br />
◦ You are forced to (and should) go extremely slow. Besides dealing with turning cars and pedestrians, you are riding are surfaces that are not maintained for traffic and often have other obstacles to deal with.<br />
• The extreme right side of the road – In my opinion this is the most dangerous place you can ride. You are risking two dangers:<br />
◦ Cars will repeatedly try to squeeze by you in the same lane and will almost always come very close to you which, obviously, increases your chance of getting hit.<br />
◦ The Peek-a-boo bike. Picture two cars approaching. The second car is following closely to the first. As the first car moves to miss you, it is seen by the second car as merely drifting in the lane since the car isn’t moving that much out of the way. The second car doesn’t realize you are in the road until it is to late.<br />
Because of the above dangers and contrary to many people’s “common sense”, the best thing for a bike commuter to do is claim the lane. I ride at least a third of the way into the lane and, around curves, I roll right down the middle.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/03/18/to...d-why-its-safer" rel="nofollow">http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/03/18/to&#8230;d-why-its-safer</a></p>
<p>Now, Denver enforces no sidewalk riding, but at the same time, they state that you should ride where cars can pass you at all times, bringing attention to the second danger:</p>
<p>Sec. 54-572. Riding on roadways.<br />
(a) Every person operating a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as near to the right-hand side of the roadway as judged safe by the bicyclist to facilitate the movement of such overtaking vehicles unless other conditions make it unsafe to do so.</p>
<p>So this really puts riders between a few ton moving metal rock and a piece of shit ticket&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Free</title>
		<link>http://www.salvagetti.com/2010/03/09/cycling-laws-in-denver/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 22:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I have a question a bit different than what has been posted thus far. I ride my bike home from working downtown toward City Park. I frequently take 16th. Multiple times now I have had pedestrians walking across 16th right out in front of me, not at an intersection and not on a cross walk. They look startled as I slam on the breaks and narrowly avoid running them down. Just to be clear, I am riding in the street exactly where I should be. This is before the bike lane really starts. They keep yelling at me that they have the right of way and I should watch where I am going. I am sorry to say, but I have responded at least once with the one finger salute.  Granted I am riding as fast as my little legs can take me (at or below the speed limit), but am I in the wrong here? Do the peds even have the right of way in this situation?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I have a question a bit different than what has been posted thus far. I ride my bike home from working downtown toward City Park. I frequently take 16th. Multiple times now I have had pedestrians walking across 16th right out in front of me, not at an intersection and not on a cross walk. They look startled as I slam on the breaks and narrowly avoid running them down. Just to be clear, I am riding in the street exactly where I should be. This is before the bike lane really starts. They keep yelling at me that they have the right of way and I should watch where I am going. I am sorry to say, but I have responded at least once with the one finger salute.  Granted I am riding as fast as my little legs can take me (at or below the speed limit), but am I in the wrong here? Do the peds even have the right of way in this situation?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://www.salvagetti.com/2010/03/09/cycling-laws-in-denver/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought certain sidewalks were considered a bike path, like where colorado boulevard intersects with I-25.  In certain areas, I would say also that it is required to temporarily ride on the sidewalk.  There will always be exceptions.  The 6 mph 1 block rule is just an example of the government trying to legislate us into oblivion.  Hitting a person or running into something and causing damage, reckless riding, etc. was already illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought certain sidewalks were considered a bike path, like where colorado boulevard intersects with I-25.  In certain areas, I would say also that it is required to temporarily ride on the sidewalk.  There will always be exceptions.  The 6 mph 1 block rule is just an example of the government trying to legislate us into oblivion.  Hitting a person or running into something and causing damage, reckless riding, etc. was already illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz</title>
		<link>http://www.salvagetti.com/2010/03/09/cycling-laws-in-denver/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As cyclists we are operating a 2 wheel vehicle and we belong on the road with the other vehicles.  However, since we are a little slower we need to be courteous and considerate of the other traffic and utilize the abundant bike routes, sharrow and bike lanes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As cyclists we are operating a 2 wheel vehicle and we belong on the road with the other vehicles.  However, since we are a little slower we need to be courteous and considerate of the other traffic and utilize the abundant bike routes, sharrow and bike lanes.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Doran</title>
		<link>http://www.salvagetti.com/2010/03/09/cycling-laws-in-denver/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra Doran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was T-Boned by a drunken cyclist on the rear passenger side of my car at 10:30pm on a Sat night by Denver Health Hospital coming across 8th Ave from the bike path in the Sunken Gardens. I was charged with Careless Driving resulting in serious Bodily Injury!  I got it reduced to no points but now $2000 damaged to the car (insurance rates will go up as I claimed it and fixed it) $2000 medical for the cyclist (insurance will go up as I have bodily injury on my policy) $2000 in attorney fees to represent me in court and the cyclist was NOT charged!!! I am furious with this new crack down on drivers and the assumption by the legal system the &quot;poor cyclist&quot; isn&#039;t at fault.  I think the &quot;poor&quot; drunken cyclist should pay the $6000!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was T-Boned by a drunken cyclist on the rear passenger side of my car at 10:30pm on a Sat night by Denver Health Hospital coming across 8th Ave from the bike path in the Sunken Gardens. I was charged with Careless Driving resulting in serious Bodily Injury!  I got it reduced to no points but now $2000 damaged to the car (insurance rates will go up as I claimed it and fixed it) $2000 medical for the cyclist (insurance will go up as I have bodily injury on my policy) $2000 in attorney fees to represent me in court and the cyclist was NOT charged!!! I am furious with this new crack down on drivers and the assumption by the legal system the &#8220;poor cyclist&#8221; isn&#8217;t at fault.  I think the &#8220;poor&#8221; drunken cyclist should pay the $6000!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.salvagetti.com/2010/03/09/cycling-laws-in-denver/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not just Denver where its illegal, over here in the uk it carries a fine of 50 to 75 pounds - thats $75 to $110 for riding on the pavement or side walk if you&#039;d prefer. i&#039;m asguilty as the nnext man of the oaccasional hop onto the pavement  to odge roundsome idiot who cant maange to rive out of the cycle lane, and i do occasionaly use the pvement on my way home from work in the early hours of the am - usualy if i&#039;ve run my lights flat. on the whole riding in the road is vastly safer regaardless. i&#039;ve been knocked down  few times on the road, an have learnt from the expreiences, no mater how tempting neverpull up along side the lead car at lightif you can&#039;t tell where hes going, they often dont check before turning (especialy left here, or right for you guys) aand will turn clean accross and ino you if you&#039;re going straight on - that lesson cost two broken ribs, a ruptured spleen, a dislocated hip - and second, never ever ride alongside BMWs.

one of the bigest things though was advice from the local police - ignore the bit of the law that requires you to ride as far over in your lane as &quot;safe&quot; and ride in the middle it forces drivers to treat you like a car and over take properly not squeeze round you, it makes you easier to see at intersections and gives you more room to avoid the bonnet of the car creeping out in front for a better view who very often CAN&#039;T see you hurtling along beside all those parked cars. i&#039;ve cycled round city centres including round the A40 in central london with a 60mph limit, twin carriage ways, serrious quantitiesof traffic and concrete walls either side and the big thing to remember is you have every right to be there, don&#039;t  be intimidated  - and i know its easy when you&#039;ve got 60 tons of articulaated truck doing 50 beside you and wanting to pull over - and dont give drivers the oportunity to cause you problems. most -but not all - acidents happen because people are being dumb or panic.

on a complete aside anyoneknow where round denver i can hire a (decent) bike andsome reasonable trails for a day at the end of themonth when i&#039;m over?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not just Denver where its illegal, over here in the uk it carries a fine of 50 to 75 pounds &#8211; thats $75 to $110 for riding on the pavement or side walk if you&#8217;d prefer. i&#8217;m asguilty as the nnext man of the oaccasional hop onto the pavement  to odge roundsome idiot who cant maange to rive out of the cycle lane, and i do occasionaly use the pvement on my way home from work in the early hours of the am &#8211; usualy if i&#8217;ve run my lights flat. on the whole riding in the road is vastly safer regaardless. i&#8217;ve been knocked down  few times on the road, an have learnt from the expreiences, no mater how tempting neverpull up along side the lead car at lightif you can&#8217;t tell where hes going, they often dont check before turning (especialy left here, or right for you guys) aand will turn clean accross and ino you if you&#8217;re going straight on &#8211; that lesson cost two broken ribs, a ruptured spleen, a dislocated hip &#8211; and second, never ever ride alongside BMWs.</p>
<p>one of the bigest things though was advice from the local police &#8211; ignore the bit of the law that requires you to ride as far over in your lane as &#8220;safe&#8221; and ride in the middle it forces drivers to treat you like a car and over take properly not squeeze round you, it makes you easier to see at intersections and gives you more room to avoid the bonnet of the car creeping out in front for a better view who very often CAN&#8217;T see you hurtling along beside all those parked cars. i&#8217;ve cycled round city centres including round the A40 in central london with a 60mph limit, twin carriage ways, serrious quantitiesof traffic and concrete walls either side and the big thing to remember is you have every right to be there, don&#8217;t  be intimidated  &#8211; and i know its easy when you&#8217;ve got 60 tons of articulaated truck doing 50 beside you and wanting to pull over &#8211; and dont give drivers the oportunity to cause you problems. most -but not all &#8211; acidents happen because people are being dumb or panic.</p>
<p>on a complete aside anyoneknow where round denver i can hire a (decent) bike andsome reasonable trails for a day at the end of themonth when i&#8217;m over?</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco</title>
		<link>http://www.salvagetti.com/2010/03/09/cycling-laws-in-denver/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 15:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two weeks ago I ran a red light right in downtown and got a ticket (ouch!).
I come from Mexico City where a bike rider would NEVER get a ticket, so I guess that&#039;s why it was so painful.  It was good lesson after all, I&#039;m a much more civil rider now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two weeks ago I ran a red light right in downtown and got a ticket (ouch!).<br />
I come from Mexico City where a bike rider would NEVER get a ticket, so I guess that&#8217;s why it was so painful.  It was good lesson after all, I&#8217;m a much more civil rider now.</p>
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		<title>By: Piep</title>
		<link>http://www.salvagetti.com/2010/03/09/cycling-laws-in-denver/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Piep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 04:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BikeDenver wants you to know that City Council approved revised and updated city bike ordinances this November: http://www.bikedenver.org/news/denverbikeordinances/
One of the new ordinances allows for bikes on the sidewalk at 6mph or less for the limited purpose of parking your bike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BikeDenver wants you to know that City Council approved revised and updated city bike ordinances this November: <a href="http://www.bikedenver.org/news/denverbikeordinances/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikedenver.org/news/denverbikeordinances/</a><br />
One of the new ordinances allows for bikes on the sidewalk at 6mph or less for the limited purpose of parking your bike.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://www.salvagetti.com/2010/03/09/cycling-laws-in-denver/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bikes on sidewalks, or to use BikeSnob&#039;s parlance: salmon.

However, I disagree with not riding on streets such as 13th Ave, 14th Ave., Colo. Blvd, Colfax, etc. I have had far more encounters with impatient drivers on 16th, 12th and other streets with bike lanes, or sharrows. Narrow side streets are just as dangerous (if not more) than wide lanes with speed limits under 40 MPH. Having large vehicles try to fit around me and between an oncoming vehicle on narrow streets is nerve racking.

The issue is impatience. Extend courtesy to others as you would like to receive it. That goes for not running red lights or stop signs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bikes on sidewalks, or to use BikeSnob&#8217;s parlance: salmon.</p>
<p>However, I disagree with not riding on streets such as 13th Ave, 14th Ave., Colo. Blvd, Colfax, etc. I have had far more encounters with impatient drivers on 16th, 12th and other streets with bike lanes, or sharrows. Narrow side streets are just as dangerous (if not more) than wide lanes with speed limits under 40 MPH. Having large vehicles try to fit around me and between an oncoming vehicle on narrow streets is nerve racking.</p>
<p>The issue is impatience. Extend courtesy to others as you would like to receive it. That goes for not running red lights or stop signs!</p>
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